Gibson G-Force Tuning System
About Your Gibson GForce Tuning System
The Gibson G-Force Tuning System is based on the Powertone® system which was developed the Tronical Company®. Its purpose is to make tuning a guitar both easy and precise.
How Do Auto Tuning Systems Work?
Transperformance ® has offered an auto-tuning system for decades. Adaption of the Transperformance system occurred because installation required extensive work to route and install multiple components.
Introducing the G-Force System as a factory-installed part of new guitars more or less forced consumers to at least try it. Besides ease of simple tuning, the G-Force electronics allow for easy non-standard tuning such as drop-tuning.
Wikipedia describes the workings of this system as, “The Gibson system uses the standard Tune-o-Matic style bridge typical on their guitars, but modifications were made to have individual piezo saddles that transmit each string’s pitch to the microprocessor.[7] The computer analyzes the signal and then controls each of the Powerhead Locking Tuners. Each tuner is run by a small servo motor that works in sync with the bridge to bring the string up to pitch by altering the string’s tension until it is within the desired tolerance.[2] The entire system is powered by a nickel-metal hydride rechargeable battery pack housed in the control cavity of the guitar.”.1
Tuning Your Guitar with G-Force
During an electric guitar setup Tuning your Gibson Les Paul for Standard Tuning is actually quite simple. It’s much easier to do sitting down. Always make certain your battery is fully charged. Here are the steps for tuning your G-Force guitar:
- Press the ON button one time.
- Holding your guitar in a normal playing position, strum all strings at once. You will notice the tuning keys turning as needed to tune the strings.
- If all of the illuminated string indicators are GREEN you are done. If any are RED, strum that string by itself.
- When all string indicators are GREEN, the system will turn off automatically.
Refer to the Gibson Owner’s Manual for instructions on Alternate Tuning. The website SixStringAcoustic.com offers this information for Alternate Tunings, “However, there are also several alternate tunings that you can select – plus you can program in your own custom tunings too.
The tunings that are pre-set are separated into Green and Red pre-sets. The blue pre-set is where you enter in your custom tunings. It starts out as standard tuning until you program in your custom tunings.
There are also low tuning pre-sets. These are the white and yellow pre-set banks. Then there is a Magenta pre-set banks where you can do custom low tunings. The Magenta defaults to C tuning (which is C, F, A#, D#, G, C)”2.
Restring Gibson Les Paul with G-Force Tuning System
Wondering how to restring your Gibson Les Paul with the G-Force Tuning System? It’s actually very easy. You simply install your new strings as you normally would, however; you need to pay close attention to how you wrap the string around the post. Find the small notch and guide the string down and through it, then engage the auto-tuner system.
To get more precise instructions on using a G-Force Tuning System to restring a guitar you shold watch this YouTube video by Yorkville Sound. We’ve shared it here under YouTube’s Creative Commons permissions
Gibson G Force Tuner Review
There are a lot of happy G-Force owners, and yet a rather large number of very disappointed G-Force owners. It’s fair to say that the customer satisfaction ratings seem to continually climb with each new and improved version.
Some may argue that the system was put into production far too soon, which led to an early but strong bad reputation. To make sure YOU are doing your part to get the most from this system you should implement the tips offered at the GuitarPlayer.com website.
Author Gary Brawer offers 7 fantastic tips which follow his comment, “Motorized tuners are very cool in many regards, but here are several things you’ll want to keep in mind to get the best out of them.”3.
Solving G-Force System Problems
There are many years worth of Gibson guitar owners documenting problems with the auto-tuning systems. Commonly reported problems are that the guitar will not stay tuned, it takes multiple attempts for it to successfully tune, you get caught out with a dead battery, and individual tuners failing to respond.
Users on the Gibson website forum have remarked about problems with even new guitars. One forum user stated, “I have had the guitar for one week, played it for at least 20+ hours and the G-Force tuners have presented me with nothing but problems. The last straw was at rehearsal last night and the guitar was out of tune more than it was in tune. I have purchased many, many brand new guitars over the years and never had the problems with tuning as I have had with this one.”4.
G-Force System Replacement Option
Forget the question, “will I have problems with my G-Force Gibson?”. You definitely will, the question is when. When that day does arrive you need to understand your what to do about replacing your faulty G-Force system
The most common solutions for problems with G-Force Tuning Systems are as follows:
- Buy a Complete New Auto Tuning System. There are many sources online, such as Reverb.com, for finding new and used systems.
- Buy Mini-Tune Parts. You can by individual parts to repair your system. More than likely you will find that you’re still replacing the entire system but dragging it out over a period of time.
- Remove and Replace with Traditional Tuning Machines. Certainly, removing the problematic system will end current and future problems. Installing traditional tuning machines usually requires very minor mods such as enlarging tuning peg holes or mounting screw holes. If you’re not setup to do guiatr modifications you should contact a nearby luthier or guitar tech. Once installed, you know you have a reliable tuning system that will last for many years.
Where to Buy New G-Force Tuning System Parta
For new OEM replacement parts you can visit the Gibson website. Buying items such as the G-Force battery directly from Gibson assures you that you are getting a genuine Gibson part. There are many sites that sell low-quality, knock-off products. Visit the Gibson website to get the right part at a fair price.
The auto-tuning systems by Tronical Tone and Gibson G-Force get mixed reviews by users. If the tuning system is functioning properly it offers a lot of conveniences. If it becomes problematic you’re better off finding a G-Force replacement than enduring the hassles and cost of keeping it repaired. If you have experience with G-Force Tuning Systems we encourage you to leave comments below to share your thoughts.
FOOTNOTES
- 1 Various Contributors, “Gibson Robot Guitar”, December 28, 2019, Available from Wikipedia
- 2 Nate, “G Force Tuning System: Gibson’s Automatic Tuning System”, June 14, 2019, Available from SixStringAcoustic.com
- 3 Gary Brawer, “Tech: 7 Tips for Tronical Systems”, November 15, 2017, Available from GuitarPlayer.com
- 4 Gary T, “Problems with G-Force Tuners”, October 13, 2014, Available from Gibson Guitars Forum
Tried them. Didn’t like it. Had my local tech replace them with GraphTech tuners. Much better!
You are right on the money.
I bought one of these guitars. I did not like it much. It was harder to use.
Excellent points. There was nothing wrong with traditional tuners. Imagine the difficulty of trying to get replacement parts for this in 20 years.
There are many different tuning systems but this one is not one I like
Great info here. Do you ever do reviews or comparisons of guitars and gear?
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I’m old-school and much prefer standard circuit components and regular hand-turned tuners. Good article, thumbs up!
If your guitar has these auto tuners you should get rid of them. Install a good set of locking tuners and you are far better off. Tuning is easy, no unexpected failures, and it will stay in tune very well.
Just say no, lol
Not a fan of these. Too much trouble and no real benefit. Who can’t tune their strings on their own?
Not a fan of these. I have two Les Paul’s and I had my tech guy remove the force tuners for conventional tuners. Additionally, on the newest one I had my tech remove the PCB board and install a traditional circuit with 50’s vintage style components.
If I sell my gforce tuners on ebay how much money should I charge?
I love my Gibson Les Paul but I quickly realized the Gforce tuners had to go. I installed the vintage-style tuners and have never looked back.
Just say no to these. Traditional tuners are the only way to go.
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To make sure YOU are doing your part to get the most from this system you should implement the tips offered at the GuitarPlayer.com website. Author Gary Brawer offers 7 fantastic tips which follow his comment, “Motorized tuners are very cool in many regards, but here are several things you’ll want to keep in mind to get the best out of them.
Thanks for writing good articles. I’ve probaly saved over $100 so far by being able to do some work myself.
This was an extremely wonderful article. Many thanks for providing these details on how to use this system.
the ivory thumb turn key on the G sting keeps falling off. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
What are THOOOOOOOSE! Can you put these on older Gibson and Epiphone guitars? Cool!
They say you can’t on the legacy page. I think you would have to look hard to find a luthier who would install it for you.
http://legacy.gibson.com/gforce.aspx
I bought a set off e bay got it for 39.02. I use a lot of alternate tunings and these things are a breeze. I installed them on a 2013
60s tribute Les Paul. I think they work great. Stretch your own strings while installing them. Do a good setup job and have fun exploring the world of alternate tuning. I found it easy to install with basic tools. It will have you really enjoying slide guitar, and many of the alternate tunings available.
So everything is pretty straight forward. This should make it easy for everyone to keep their guitar tuned.
My first visit to this website. Pleased to find well-written pieces that provide useful information for people to use.